www.evangelicalview.com

Leading Religious,
News and information


Part of the Identityscape.com network...

getxfactor.com jmoodmusic.com smartbusinesschoices.com mintdepot.com lowfaresalways.com evangelicalview.com shoppingpodder.com soproudlywehail.com webnews.ws currenthumor.com

 

 

Who is the ANTICHRIST?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 807, 808, 809, 810, 811, 812  Next
   Evangelical Views - the Best of UseNet Religious Postings! Forum Index -> Christian Methodist Forum  
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
john w
Guest






PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Dobson and Obama: Who is 'Deliberately Distorting'? Reply with quote

x-no-archive: yes
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:55:47 +0100, "Jani" <jani@jani.adsl24.co.uk>
wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Quote:

"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
news:vgij649glssugl5pjrikri88k8cmpq74c5@4ax.com...
x-no-archive: yes
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:48:25 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"
316kcbk@gmail.com> wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
On Jun 29, 8:30 am, "Jani" <j...@jani.adsl24.co.uk> wrote:

No, you need to start with a map that shows the road layout as it was in
the
60s and then compare with the layout as it is now. Orient by remaining
landmarks. Figure out the radius of the relevant area, based on your '30
minutes' walk' criterion. Split that area into manageable sections, and
comb
those using Google, Multimap, LiveSearch - whichever one has the
interface
you like best. Some have a 3D option which allows you to see the
buildings
from a side-angle as well as the top. Eliminate everything which is
obviously modern, not a church, etc. Note the possibilities which are
left,
using available road names, scale, etc to pinpoint them as accurately as
possible. *Then* you have some actual, solid data to give to anyone who
is
willing to go down there and look. Although after the hissy-fit that you
threw at Andrew, I doubt you'll get many volunteers.

You're trying to give reasonable solutions to an unreasonable man,
Jani.

^ ^ ^ ^^ name calling again.

Not only that, but you're asking him to take some time, do some
work, and make an effort.

Perhaps, just PERHAPS, I have a full plate already.

None of which interests a lazy, unmotivated
narcissist like John Weatherly.

^ ^ ^ ^ You're name-calling me again.

Is that supposed to motivate me?


Does it never occur to you that every historian and archaeologist in the
country would be *delighted* to discover a hitherto-unknown
sixth-century
church?

I have SERIOUS doubts about that.
I have contacted half-a-dozen organizations in England.

Never even got a reply.

If all you tell them is that you saw an undiscovered, unlisted sixth-century
church, in an area which is smack-dab in a populated area and has already
been thoroughly combed for old buildings, what do you expect? Get the maps,
narrow down the location, and give them some proper data.

Hint: Just because YOU think "that's how it is," doesn't mean it's
like that.

But it *is* like that, John. Here's a couple of sites about local history in
that area:

Alconbury:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=66133

A very comprehensive list of old churches, including Lakenheath and
Mildenall:
http://www.suffolkchurches.co.uk/Alist.htm

People are not only interested in local history, they do a hell of a lot of
research into it.

They would be over the moon to find a sixth-century
Quote:
church - and believe me, they wouldn't have overlooked one that was a few
minutes' walk from a military base,

I don't believe you! It's there, and I can't find it on any "lists."

Explain that.

Sadly, you won't even entertain the possibility!

"If your blokes haven't found it, it couldn't POSSIBLY exist!"

rubbish.

And you aren't even curious enough to "go check for yourself."

I can't tell you the things I've read about, then went for a
"look-see", so I could say, "Yep! I've seen it with my own two eyes!"

You aren't even CURIOUS!

Or you'd go look!



not even hidden out in the fields
Quote:
somewhere.


Or do you think you're so incredibly important that they'd hush it
up, just to avoid saying "John Weatherly was right"?

Well, let's see. I've given the information enough times,
thoroughly enough, that if YOU wanted to go, YOU could find it, and
YOU could take THE CREDIT.

But you aren't interested.

John, do try and look at it rationally. It is just not possible for a church
to sit there virtually on a main road, within easy reach of the local
population, bearing a 6th century cornerstone, and be completely overlooked.
It would have had to have been there for 1500 years, without anyone ever
saying "wow, this is really old!" And this in a place where half the houses
are grade II listed buildings. So why on earth would I spend time and money
going to look for something when the only evidence it exists -against all
the evidence that it *doesn't* - is your say-so?

Jani
Back to top
john w
Guest






PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Dobson and Obama: Who is 'Deliberately Distorting'? Reply with quote

x-no-archive: yes
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:48:52 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"
<316kcbk@gmail.com> wrote:
© 2008 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no portion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
Quote:
On Jun 30, 11:17 pm, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

  I DO have one question.
   Which organization was assigned to  RAF Alconbury that had RF-4s ?

Excuse me?  You don't know what squadron you were allegedly assigned
to?!

  I'm suggesting, with "all the research you have done" and you know
what sorts of airplanes were there when,
  you should certainly know the unit / organization to which I was
assigned when I was there.

I definitely found some information, John - and I think that you are
trying to make sure that what I found will match the lies/stories
you've told in the past before you say any more.

You're falsely accusing me AGAIN, bitch.

Don't falsely accuse me, and I won't call you "ugly names."

I'd think you'd have figured that out by now.

I was there; I don't have to lie.

But you have this obsession with "putting me in my place," so YOU lie
every chance you get.

And I'm not putting up with it.

Your ever lie is beign archived.

"Keep it up."


Quote:

 Hell, I actually went to the Alconbury web page and read some of the
history.

Wow. You actually did some research? Bravo.

I didn't know the base would have a web page, stupid.

Since (as near as I can tell) it's not being used anymore, I didn't
see the point in there being a web page. But there is.

You just can't let even a sentence pass without a put-down, can you?

So much for civility!

I do a lot of research. I'm just (as I've said MANY times) not very
good at it.

This time, I got lucky.

Quote:

 > I wanted to see if they'd mention the base's mission in the
mid-60s.

Why wouldn't they?

why would they?

They didn't.

Quote:

 They didn't mention the mission, but they mentioned my unit.

It's not classified info, John. The Vietnam War has been over quite
some time now.

Really?
Do you ever StOP talking people down at every opportunity?

You realy do not encourage dialogue!

And there's no reason (just because YOU DEMAND IT) that they'd
mention the base's mission. "Even if that makes perfect sense to
YOU."

Quote:

 What unit was it, if you've "done all that research?"

 I'll clue you:  50th?  48th? 18th? 10th?  or 3rd?

Yep.

  What kind of squadron was it?  Tactical? Strategic? or Field
Maintenance?

Yep.

As I've said MANY times, you LOVE To get very NOSY, and you ask LOTS
of questions. You don't answer any.

And I just gave you the correct information, and you didn't respond.

Meaning, you don't know.

Since it's on the web page, I was assigned to the 10th FMS.

Stuipd!

Which is no secret! If you had truly dug through "my archives" for
YEARS, you'd know I've put that information in there a dozen times.

Which means, you aren't even a good liar!

Quote:

 I am betting YOU HAVE NO CLUE.

You lose.

But you didn't answer.

Quote:

LOL!  Oh, John - you are definitely a liar, just not a smart one.

  Ah, the assumptions you psychos make!

Ah, the lies you manipulative sociopathic narcissists tell!

^ ^ ^ ^ ^^ You're out of bullets!
Back to top
NOSPAM
Guest






PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Dobson and Obama: Who is 'Deliberately Distorting'? Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:17:29 -0700, john w <j<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:

Ah, the assumptions you psychos make!


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!
Back to top
**Rowland Croucher**
Guest






PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: US church votes for change that could permit gay ordination Reply with quote

US church votes for change that could permit gay ordination

The general assembly of the Presbyterian Church (USA) has approved a
proposed change in the denomination's constitution that would, in
effect, permit the ordination of openly gay clergy.

However, a majority of the 2.2-million-member denomination's local
districts, known as presbyteries, must now approve the change, and those
against gay ordination are likely to heavily oppose it. Similar efforts
to change Presbyterian ordination rules in 1997 and 2001 failed.

The latest move came in a June 27decision, by 380 votes to 325, at the
assembly meeting in San Jose, California. Though the divisions within
the PCUSA have not become as contentious as those of the US Episcopal
(Anglican) Church, they have nonetheless been heated, and during the
June 21-28 assembly, those opposed to the action said it would harm the
church.

"Don't send a shock wave through the church," said the Rev. William
Stepp of the Tropical Florida Presbytery, as quoted by the Presbyterian
News Service. Mr Stepp added that the denomination, "needs a continuing
strong witness to biblical standards for sexuality".

Still, the Rev. Susan Fisher of the Pacific Presbytery, also quoted by
PNS, said US Presbyterians had debated the ordination issue for three
decades and it was time, "to give the church voice, and vote to change
language".

Under current rules, those ordained as ministers are expected to live
in, "fidelity within the covenant of marriage between a man and a woman
or chastity in singleness".

The new language gives more leeway to ordination by striking out the
language about sexual fidelity. Now, the wording is that those, "called
to ordained service in the church, by their assent to the constitutional
questions for ordination and installation … pledge themselves to live
lives obedient to Jesus Christ the Head of the Church". It also states
that the local governing body, "charged with examination for ordination
and/or installation … establishes the candidate's sincere efforts to
adhere to these standards".

Although the assembly voted not to change the denomination's definition
of marriage as being between a man and a woman, it overwhelmingly
approved a recommendation advocating civil rights for same-sex couples.

In other actions, the assembly elected the Rev. Bruce Reyes-Chow, 39, as
the denomination's moderator, and the Rev. Gradye Parsons as the general
assembly's stated clerk. Parsons succeeds the Rev. Clifton Kirkpatrick,
who has served 12 years.
Kirkpatrick will continue to continue to serve for two years as
president of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches.

Chris Herlinger, ENI

July 2, 2008

http://nsw.uca.org.au/news/2008/US_church_votes_for_change_30_06_08.htm
--


Shalom/Salaam/Pax! Rowland Croucher

http://jmm.aaa.net.au/ (20,000 articles 4000 humor)

Blogs - http://rowlandsblogs.blogspot.com/

Justice for Dawn Rowan - http://dawnrowansaga.blogspot.com/

Funny Jokes and Pics - http://funnyjokesnpics.blogspot.com/
Back to top
Jani
Guest






PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Dobson and Obama: Who is 'Deliberately Distorting'? Reply with quote

"john w @yahoo.com>" <j<no> wrote in message
news:3vhk6496ak91eshcsvphc7hdbn4rohenjh@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2008 12:23:59 +0100, "Jani" <jani@jani.adsl24.co.uk
wrote:
[]



Quote:
And yet, even though England is bristling with local historical
societies,
even though Alconbury is a tiny place where it would be impossible to
hide
an ancient church, even though the discovery of a 6th-century church
would
be so impressive it would even make the tabloids - despite all this, the
thing remains invisible!

I've asked enough people to believe that the church's exclusion is a
political issue.

What 'political issue'?

From your several false accusations with NO justification from a
previous post ("the church was supposed to be NEXT to the main gate"/
No, it wasn't)

"I DID get a look at a photo (I believe I lost it in a computer
Quote:
crash) that shows a cluster of buildings outside the main gate at
Alconbury, so the church--if it's there--may be "buried" and "hidden"
amongst a cluster of other buildings"

"Outside the main gate".

And then in the *same post*, you say it's several minutes' walk away. How
can you complain about people supposedly not following your 'directions'
when the directions themselves are contradictory?

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.religion.christian.baptist/msg/4ad3524f31e54104?hl=en&dmode=source


Quote:
We're done.

I'm not going to keep arguing with you.

There TRULY is no point.

If you were all that INTERESTED, you could go yourself!

Oh, I'm interested all right. I'm interested in your wild allegations of
government and church conspiracies, your assertions that Brits are a bunch
of 'whackos' out to destroy 'precious artefacts', your implication that we
are all so unobservant and ignorant of our own history that we can walk past
a church for *fifteen hundred years* without noticing its cornerstone date.
Yes, I find that very 'interesting', John. Also arrogant, dishonest and
bloody insulting.


Quote:

You aren't interested. You only wish to argue.

I'm tired of arguing. This arguing has gone on for half-a-dozen
years, and NO one has bothered to go check, FOR REAL.

I'll go myself when I can, I'll find it, I'll document it, and
you'll be one of the first to say, "Oh! It's there! It's at! How
interesting!"

And you'll move on.

You're a phony.


And I don't waste my time with phonies.

I've done more research on this in a couple of days than you've done in all
your years of whining and bitching on Usenet, John. I can, for example, tell
you for an absolute, certain fact that the new American Baptist church in
Alconbury is not built on the site of any older church.


Quote:

And-- if you missed it-- I changed my mind about the portfolio.

I wouldn't trust you that you wouldn't send the link to the whole
world.

You just don't impress me as being HONEST.

Apparently *you* missed it, but I already replied to that post, and told you
that I was not interested in private correspondence with you, but if you
decided at some time to post a public link to your work, I would look at it
fairly and honestly. As I did with the other photographer's site posted
here, which I thought at the time was yours.

Jani
Back to top
Jani
Guest






PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Dobson and Obama: Who is 'Deliberately Distorting'? Reply with quote

"John Fraser" <jfraser@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:486b03b9$0$4070$9a566e8b@news.aliant.net...

[]

Quote:
The oldest church in England dates to the 7th century. There are two
contenders: Chapel of St Peter-on-the-Wall at Bradwell (645 AD), and Saint
Martin's Church at Canterbury (597 AD). Because Britons are rather proud
of their history, I'm suprised that a chapel dated as early as 525 AD
would be either removed or destroyed.

It wouldn't have been, and certainly not in the period between the late 60s
(when John says he saw it) and the present day. Nor would it have been in
use (complete with organ, etc) without being listed, dated, poked and
prodded, written up in guidebooks and generally made a fuss of.

Jani
Back to top
Raymond
Guest






PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:02 am    Post subject: Re: Tongues have ceased. instead of the Holy Spirit witnessi Reply with quote

On Jul 9, 6:30 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Quote:
Raymond wrote:

On Jul 7, 7:46 am, bob young <alaspect...@netvigator.com> wrote:
Raymond wrote:

No lies !!!!?  You still cling to that impossible tale of Moses
 climbing a mountain having a one on one with a god that
today we never see or hear from ?

What is impossible for a man to climb a mountain, people do that all
the time, then I have had a one on one with a lot of people in the
past, are you saying that is all false and if a person sees another
person and you are not there to see it, it is fake?

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MEETING OTHER PEOPLE
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A HUMAN CHATTING WITH A GOD

I AM TALKING OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE AND SEE WHAT WAS GOING
ON,

Two thousand plus years ago ??? !!!!!!  [NO WONDER THERE ARE
ATHEISTS !!!!]

It does not matter what time or year it was, and people will be what
they want to be atheists is only one choice.

Quote:

 THEY ARE NOT GOD THEY ARE JUST PEOPLE.  Moses was a human
and the

Bible says man is made in the image of God to start with, so a human
chatting with the one that made humans in His Image, would seem that
God and Man can both look like human beging.  Also you did not have to
YELL.

....and you didn't have to dodge the question either

I don't see where I dodge your question either, I may not have given
you a answer you wanted, but dodge it, I do not think so.

Raymond
Back to top
Carl
Guest






PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Faith + 0 = Salvation Reply with quote

In the following lesson, J. Vernon McGee teaches the Biblical doctrine of
salvation by faith alone and not by works of man.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

---

Faith + 0 = Salvation
by Dr. J. Vernon McGee

For ye are all the sons of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26)

Our subject could also be called "Faith Minus Works Equals Salvation." If
you want the equation (we're told in mathematics that things equal to the
same thing are equal to each other), it would be:

Faith + 0 = Faith - Works

The Epistle to the Galatians comes from the heart of Paul, and in it he is
defending the greatest doctrine that we have: Justification by faith, or
salvation by the grace of God. This is the epistle that gripped Martin
Luther. As an Augustinian monk, he spent nights lying on a cold slab,
wearing a hair shirt, fasting, and doing many other things. One time he was
going up Sancta Scala in Rome, ascending the stairs on his knees, and it
came to him (because he had been studying the Epistle to the Galatians) that
man was not justified by works - certainly not by the things he was doing;
that works could not bring him into a right relationship with God; that God
had made it very clear that He justifies men by faith alone. So this man
rose from his knees to go out into Europe and proclaim a gospel that drove
back the darkness of the Dark Ages, took the chains and shackles from the
minds and hearts of the multitudes of Europe, and brought in what we call
today European civilization. In our day, this great civilization has gone by
the board - it's through, and it can be restored only by the preaching of
the great doctrines that Paul enunciated in this epistle.

Not only did the Epistle to the Galatians move Martin Luther, but it also
began the great spiritual movement that was led by the Wesleys. John Wesley
came to America as a missionary to the Indians, but his mission was a
failure. Returning to England in discouragement, he said, "I came to America
to convert Indians, but who is going to convert John Wesley?" Back in
London, walking down Aldersgate Street one night, he heard singing coming
from an upstairs window. He found the stairway, went up, and discovered it
was a meeting of the Friends, the Quakers, the followers of George Fox. He
took his place in the back of the little auditorium and listened to a
message from the Epistle to the Galatians. Later, John Wesley wrote in his
journal, "As he read and spoke from the Epistle to the Galatians, I felt my
heart strangely warmed. I felt that I did trust in Christ, Christ alone, for
salvation; and there was given me there an assurance that He had taken away
my sins, even mine."

What is this great truth that has so moved the men of the past and which
today is the only thing that can move America or even the world? (I
personally do not believe a revival is going to come in by the methods of
organizations or by a man. I think it can come today only by preaching again
these great truths that have long since gone into oblivion and silence in
the churches of America.) Well, Paul stated it very succinctly in the
Epistle to the Romans when he said:

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the
ungodly, his faith is counted for [that which it is not] righteousness.
(Romans 4:5)

The only way God can accept a sinner and make him righteous is through faith
in Jesus Christ. That's the great truth that is being left out today. God
refuses to accept law-keeping. He refuses to accept good works. The very
moment someone says, "I do this or that, which is necessary for my
salvation, and I'm depending on it," he means two things: that he is
trusting his works and that he is not trusting Christ. And there is only one
conclusion that can be drawn: He is not saved at all. That is strong
language, and I would never say a thing like that, but Paul says it here in
this epistle. Salvation is only by faith in Christ.

After all, what works do you and I have to offer to God? It is like the
little boy whose father was doing some building in the backyard. The little
fellow got his hammer and nails and wanted to help. He began driving in
nails where they didn't belong and using a saw where he shouldn't be sawing.
His "helping" was not really acceptable. As much as the father loved the
little fellow, he couldn't accept his work. It could not be used. Do you
think God can take your good works for your salvation when He has already
declared us sinners? God, therefore, refuses to accept law-keeping. The
Mosaic Law, actually, never was given to save men. Paul calls it a
"ministration of condemnation" and a "ministration of death" (see 2
Corinthians 3:7, 9). The Law was given to show men that they are lost
sinners. Listen to Paul:

Wherefore, then, serveth the law? It was added because of [for the sake of ]
transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made..
(Galatians 3:19)

That seed, Paul says later on, was Christ. The Law was temporary - it was
given merely as a temporary measure, and it was given for the sake of
transgressions. Therefore, the Law cannot remove sin. Rather, it reveals
sin. It was not given for salvation at all. It was given to show us that we
are sinners. It reveals the fact that man is not a sophisticated sinner or a
refined or trained sinner, as some folk would have you believe today; but
man is a sinner in the raw, a sinner by nature. The Mosaic Law reveals this
to us.

Let me use a very homely illustration. Don't be shocked if I take you into
the bathroom for a few moments. I'm sure you have in your bathroom a mirror.
And I'm sure that under the mirror you have a washbasin. That mirror is
there to reveal your condition.

You look in that mirror and it reveals a smudge on your face. It will not
remove it. A great many people today are using the mirror of the Ten
Commandments or the Sermon on the Mount to try to remove the smudge. It won't
do it. If you go into your bathroom, look in the mirror and see you have a
dirty face, you don't rub your face against the mirror. If you do, and a
member of your family sees you doing it, they are apt to make an appointment
for you with a psychiatrist to talk over your condition. That's not the way
it's done. Yet our churches today are filled with people who are rubbing up
against the Mirror, the Word of God, hoping they will be able to remove
their sin by contact. Many people today are saying, "My religion is the
Sermon on the Mount." Very candidly, the Sermon on the Mount as a religion
is making more hypocrites today than anything I know of - because you know
you're not keeping it. If you are honest, you know you are not living by it.
But it does reveal to you that you come short of the glory of God. And down
beneath that Mirror there is a washbasin.

There is a fountain filled with blood
Drawn from Immanuel's veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood
Lose all their guilty stains.
- William Cowper

God has a place to take away sins, but it is not the Law. It is Christ,
through the shedding of His blood, who paid the penalty for your sin. It is
your trust and faith in Him that saves you; nothing else can.

Now there is something else that is said here about the Law:

Wherefore, the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we
might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24)

"Schoolmaster" is the Greek word paidagogos, which doesn't mean
schoolteacher at all. It means a servant or a slave who was part of a Roman
household. Half of the Roman Empire was slave. Of the 120 million people, 60
million were slaves. In the home of a patrician, a member of the Praetorian
Guard, or the rich in the Roman Empire, were slaves that cared for the
children. When a child was born into such a home, he was put in the custody
of a servant who actually raised him. He put clean clothes on him, bathed
him, helped him blow his nose when it was necessary, and paddled him when he
needed it. When the little one grew to a certain age and was to start to
school, this servant was the one who got him up of a morning, dressed him,
and took him to school. That is where he got the name of paidagogos - paid
has to do with the feet, and we get our word "pedal" from it; agogos means
"to lead." It means that he took the little one by the hand, led him to
school, and turned him over to the schoolteacher. This servant, the slave,
was not capable of teaching him beyond a certain age, so he took him to
school.

Now what Paul is saying here is that the Law is our paidagogos. The Law
said, "Little fellow, I can't do any more for you. I now want to take you by
the hand and bring you to the cross of Christ. You are lost. You need a
Savior." The purpose of the Law is to bring men to Christ - not to give them
an expanded chest so they can walk around claiming they keep God's
commandments. You know you don't keep them; all you have to do is examine
your own heart to know that. This is the great truth that has been
surrendered in this country today.

Our educational system teaches the opposite. Let me give you a quotation
from an outstanding educator:

"Where education assumes that the moral nature of man is capable of
improvement, traditional Christianity assumes that the moral nature of man
is corrupt or absolutely bad. Where it is assumed in education that an
outside human agent may be instrumental in the moral improvement of man, in
traditional Christianity it is assumed that the agent is God, and even so,
the moral nature of man is not improved, but exchanged for a new one."

That is a tremendous statement. And we have seen the working out of it in
our educational philosophy. Look on any campus today and you will see what
we are producing. May I say to you that our educational system is certainly
in question in this hour in which we live. Our approach and philosophy have
been altogether wrong. God says that man is lost and must be saved. This is
the thing that is all important.

Now I know that a great many people today keep up a front.

Let me give you the example of a contemporary who has passed across the
stage in recent history. He is Ernest Hemingway. A great many looked up to
him, especially our literary lights. This fellow tried to appear to be a
Jack London. He went out and shot wild game, he was interested in
bullfights, he was the great big swaggering type. Yet down underneath, as
Edmund Wilson, his biographer, put it, was "the undrugable consciousness
that something was wrong." Any man who is honest today knows down deep in
his heart that something is wrong.

Some time ago Gordon Lindsay made a study of the Stone-Age people out in New
Guinea and Myanmar (formerly Burma). Let me pass on to you his conclusions:

The notion of primitive man possessing some inner peace which we civilized
people have somehow lost and need to regain is a lot of nonsense. Your
average New Guinea native lives not only in fear of his enemies but in
terror-struck dread of the unknown. Malevolent spirits, especially those of
ancestors, are all about him.

Man never gets away from that which is down deep in his heart.

Dr. O. Hobart Mowerer, a research professor of psychology at the University
of Illinois, is the author of a book entitled The Crisis in Psychiatry and
Religion. He also taught at Yale and Harvard and is the past president of
the American Psychological Association. He is widely known as a researcher,
teacher, and lecturer. Notice what he states:

"The Freudians, of course, recognize that guilt is central to Neurosis. But
it is always the guilt of the future. It is not what the person has done
that makes him ill but rather what he wishes to do but dares not. In
contrast, the emerging alternative, or more accurately, the re-emerging one,
is that the so-called neurotic is a bona fide sinner. And his guilt is from
the past and is real, and that his difficulties arise, not from inhibitions,
but from actions which are clearly prescribed, socially and morally, and
which have been kept carefully concealed, unconfessed and unredeemed."

A psychologist at the University of Southern California who attended my
Bible study several years ago told me one night as he was leaving the
auditorium, "Dr. McGee, you ought to emphasize the guilt complex more than
you do. That guilt complex is as much a part of you as your right arm - and
you can't get rid of it. What the psychologist does is change it from one
spot to another, but he doesn't remove it. The only place I know to remove
the guilt is at the cross of Christ." That is where you bring your sins, my
beloved.

You don't have to put up a front today and say, "I'm So-and-so." Well, God
says you are a so-and-so sinner, and He gives you this remedy:

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as
scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson,
they shall be as wool. (Isaiah 1:18)

Oh, to face reality today! There are multitudes in our churches who are
doing nothing in the world but covering up. You don't have to cover up. Be
real. Be genuine. You might just as well tell God about your sins. He
already knows. He knows you through and through.

Martin Luther said, "God creates out of nothing. Therefore, until a man is
nothing, God can make nothing out of him."

Your best resolutions must wholly be waived;
Your highest ambitions be crossed.
You never need think you will ever be saved,
'Til first you've learned you are lost.
- Author unknown

When you realize this truth, you can be saved. We have had too much
"easy-believism." Little wonder our churches have become full of folk who do
nothing in the world but blow a trumpet. They are like the Pharisee who
patted himself on the back in his prayer by saying, "God, I thank thee that
I am not as other men are," then he began to brag about what he did (see
Luke 18:9-14). Our Lord said that such a man gets nowhere with God. His
prayers die in the rafters.

Now Paul mentions three things that faith in Christ does for us which the
Mosaic Law could never do, that religion cannot do, and that the church
cannot do.

1. The Nature of Sons of God

First of all, only faith in Christ can make us legitimate sons of God. Will
you listen to this:

For ye are all the sons of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26)

Notice the word is "sons," not children. It is the Greek huios, meaning
"legitimate sons." How do you become a son of God? By faith in Christ Jesus.
There is no other way. You are a legitimate son of God by faith in Christ
Jesus.

Back in the Old Testament you do not find God calling the Old Testament
saints "sons." Israel as a nation was called a son, but individuals were
not. Although David was a man after God's own heart, God spoke of him as
"David, my servant." That was the language used in the Old Testament.

When our Lord confronted the religious man, Nicodemus, He said, "Ye must be
born again" (see John 3:3). And Nicodemus was genuine; he was obedient to
the Law. As a Pharisee he fasted twice a week, he gave a tenth of all he
possessed, and he did everything else required of a Pharisee. He was
religious to his fingertips, but our Lord said to him, "You can't even see
the kingdom of heaven until you have been born again. Religion won't help
you."

The most damnable heresy that is in this world today, and it has hurt our
nation more than anything else, is the teaching of the universal fatherhood
of God and the universal brotherhood of man.

That is not taught in the Word of God. We have spent billions of dollars
throughout the world trying to appease rascals on the basis that they are
our brothers. Our Lord made it very clear when the religious Pharisees came
to Him claiming, "We have one Father, even God." He said, "Ye are of your
father the devil" (see John 8: 41-44). Now since Christ said that, evidently
somebody couldn't claim God as Father. Evidently there were some who were
not His children - and there are a great many today, also. You become a
child of God only through faith in Jesus Christ.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received
him, to them gave he power [the right, the authority] to become the children
of God, even to them that [do no more nor less than simply] believe on his
name. (John 1:11, 12)

That is the way you become a son of God.

2. The Position of Sons of God

Now faith in Christ does something else that religion won't do, the church
can't do, nor can the works of the Law or any little thing you go through.
That is to give you the position of a son of God. This is a little
technical - follow me closely.

Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a
servant, though he be lord of all. (Galatians 4:1)

In the phrase, "the heir, as long as he is a child," the word for "child" is
nepios, which means an immature child. As such, he is no different from a
servant "though he be lord of all."

Now let's go back to the Roman home again and look at this little fellow. He
is born into a good Roman family, but a servant takes care of him. And if
you saw him running around with the other children, you'd never know he was
the heir. You would not know that he was the son of the father of the
household. He grows up "under tutors and governors until the time appointed
of the father" (Galatians 4:2).

The age of accountability was not an established age level, but it was
determined by the individual father. I think the father would know best. I
know some boys who are mature when they are sixteen, some at eighteen, and
some mature at twenty-one or older.

In a Roman home it must have worked something like this. Suppose the father
is a centurion in Caesar's army. Caesar carries on a campaign way up in
Gaul, pushing back the frontier of the Roman Empire. (Gaul is where my
ancestors were and, believe me, they were heathen and they were fighters,
and Caesar's army had trouble with them.) So this centurion is gone from
home for several years as the army puts down these northern barbarians. But
finally the father returns home. He goes in to shave, and all of a sudden
you hear him yell out, "Who's been using my razor?" Well, I tell you, all
the servants come running because he is the head of the house.

They say to him, "Your son." He says, "You mean to tell me that boy is old
enough to use a razor? Bring him here." So they bring him in - he's a fine
strapping boy - and the father says, "Well, now we must have the toga
virilis, and we'll send out invitations to the grandmas, grandpas, aunts,
and uncles." So they all come in for the ceremony of the toga virilis, and
that day the father puts around the boy a toga, a robe. That is what our
Lord meant in His parable of the prodigal son: "Put the robe around him, and
put a ring on his finger" (see Luke 15:22). The ring had on it the signet of
his father, which was equivalent to his signature and gave him the father's
authority.

You could see that boy walking down the street now with that robe on. The
servant better not say anything to correct him now, and he'd better not try
to paddle him. In fact, the son will be paddling the servant from here on,
because he has now reached the age of a full-grown son. That is what Paul
meant when he went on to say:

Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the
world [under the Law]. But, when the fullness of the time was come, God sent
forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were
under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. (Galatians 4:3-5)

Now "adoption" has nothing to do with going to an orphans' home, seeing a
precious little child, and then taking legal steps to make him your own.
That was not "adoption" in the Roman Empire. Adoption was when the man took
his own son and made him a full-grown son. And the day when God saves us, we
are brought into the family of God as full-grown sons.

That truth may not mean anything to you, but it means everything to me - and
it has in the past. I went to seminary with an awful inferiority complex. I
was not brought up in a Christian home where I saw a Bible or heard a
prayer - I knew nothing. And when I got to seminary the other fellows knew
it all - at least that's the impression they gave me. I've never met so many
smart fellows. They knew the Bible, could quote verses, and they were very
pious too. I didn't even know the books of the Bible. And, I tell you, it
disturbed me. So I began to learn the books of the Bible.

The reason I wrote the book, Briefing the Bible (This booklet is no longer
in print.), with outlines of
every book, was that I determined to know every book of the Bible. Then one
day someone told me that I was not just a babe but that I was a full-grown
son. Anything any mature saint could understand in the Word of God, I could
understand because that mature saint would need the Holy Spirit to teach
him, and I would too. That was a tremendous revelation to me and a great
comfort in those early days.

God brings us in as full-grown sons so we can understand spiritual truth!
And if you don't understand it, it is your fault because He has made every
arrangement for you. He has made you a fullgrown son. To me the greatest
tragedy in our churches today is the number of Bible ignoramuses who are
there. They are not able to find their way around in the Bible at all.
Notice what Paul says in this connection:

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered
into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love
him. (1 Corinthians 2:9)

This verse is used, as you know, at funerals with the idea that poor, dear
So-and-so didn't hear or see much here, but he has gone up yonder where he
can hear and see the things of God. Now I grant you that this truth is in
the Bible - "For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then, face to face" (1
Corinthians 13:12) - but this is not what 1 Corinthians 2:9 is saying. God
wants us to understand spiritual truths down here because "God hath revealed
them unto us by his Spirit" (1 Corinthians 2:10). Most of our learning comes
through the ear-gate, the eye-gate, and what the psychologist calls
cognition. That is how we learn today. But if we are going to get divine
truth:

But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth
all things, yea, the deep things of God.. But the natural man receiveth not
the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him, neither
can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians
2:10, 14)

3. The Experience of Sons of God

Faith in Christ, not works of the Law, gives the experience of sons of God.
There are those today who think experience does not enter into salvation,
that it has nothing to do with your salvation. But if you're saved, faith in
Christ will give you an experience. Many of us tend to play down experience.
However, there is a sadness that has come over the saints in this country
today. And there are many who need to have the experience of the Spirit of
God making real in their lives that they are sons of God, making real to
them that in spite of circumstances they are still children of God. Now I
recognize the danger in experience. Let me share this little poem with you:

Three men were walking on a wall,
Feeling, Faith, and Fact,
When Feeling had an awful fall,
And Faith was taken aback.
So close was Faith to Feeling,
He stumbled and fell too,
But Fact remained and pulled Faith back,
And Faith brought Feeling too.
- Author unknown

If you are a child of God through faith in Christ, there is an experience.

Now the believer never reaches the place of sinless perfection in this life.
I wish we did. Being a pastor would be a lot easier if we had sinless
perfection today. But we don't have it. There have been men who in their
desperation have reached out for it. The greatest preacher, I suppose, this
country ever produced was Paul Rader. Thousands of people came to Christ
through his ministry. Dr. Charles Fuller was one of them. He told me that he
sat behind the last pillar in the church when Paul Rader preached. He put
his head down on his arms and right where he was sitting he accepted Christ.
Many other well-known men accepted Christ through the evangelistic efforts
of Paul Rader. He was a great preacher. But he was accused of preaching
sinless perfection. He was not guilty of the charge, but he did give that
impression because he said some unusual things. One of the things he said
was, "That old nature you have is just like a dead cat. Reach down, get it
by the tail, and throw it from you as far as you can!" And everyone in the
audience said, "Amen," because everybody wants to get rid of the old dead
cat. Now maybe you're a little disgusted with Vernon McGee - you'd be
surprised what I think of him. I'd like to get rid of the old nature, but it
follows me around all the time. On one occasion Dr. Chafer said to Paul
Rader when he made that statement, "Paul, you forget that old cat has nine
lives! He'll just come right back and you'll have to throw him away again
and again." Now, my beloved, the believer never reaches perfection. We are
always God's foolish little children, filled with ignorance, stubbornness,
sins, fears, and weaknesses. We are never wonderful; He is wonderful. We
never reach that place. But we do experience the Spirit of God bearing
witness with our spirit that we are the children of God.

Paul says that the Spirit of God cries, "Abba, Father" -

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your
hearts, crying, Abba, Father. (Galatians 4:6)

This word Abba was not translated. The translators, very wisely, I think,
did not attempt to put it into English. It is too personal. It means "my
daddy." And you don't talk that way about God, friend, regardless of how
intimate you try to get with Him. You don't talk that way to Him. He is high
and holy. But the Spirit of God can do that, and it is the Spirit of God who
will witness to a child of God of the Father's closeness and tender care. He
does this especially in times of darkness and crises that come to us down
here. John Paton, a missionary living among cannibals in the New Hebrides,
told of how he buried his lovely wife with their newborn baby, and sat guard
over the graves for days to keep the cannibals from digging up the bodies.
He said, "I would have gone mad if Christ had not made Himself real to me."
My friend, I think He will make Himself real to you.

If I may be personal - and the reason I use this personal illustration is
that many who read this are going through the same experience. When I was
told I had cancer, I'll be honest with you, I couldn't believe it. Now I
could believe that you could have cancer, but I never thought I could have
it. My doctor told me I would have to go to the hospital. So I went to the
hospital and lay down in a bed. I had been a preacher for many years, and in
rather a professional manner I had gone into hospitals to visit folk. I
would pat them on the hand and say, "God will be with you." I prayed for
them, then I would walk out. But they had to stay there. A preacher friend
came in late that first evening. I shall never forget.

He prayed one of the most wonderful prayers I ever listened to, and how I
appreciated it! Then he got up and left. But this time I was not walking
out - I had to stay there. So I rolled over with my face to the wall and I
said, "Lord, I've been in this hospital a hundred times, and I've told
everybody else to trust You. Now I want to know whether that's real or not."
I want to testify to this, friend, He became real.

There are multitudes of people who will testify to this also, for they have
had the same experience. For example, in Houston, Texas, a family drove
fifty miles to the banquet at which I was speaking.

They said to me, "We were Roman Catholics and we turned in faith to Christ
when you were teaching Romans." In Sarasota, Florida, a couple told me, "We
have a son who has turned his back on us and against God. We have been
rebuking ourselves and have even felt that we are no longer saved, but,
thank God, it is faith plus nothing." My friend, He gives the experience.
The Law cannot give that to you, only faith in Christ can give it to you.

This message is not pabulum; it is not milk and mush. I'm not the milkman.
It might give you Christian colic today, because this is meat. But we need
to know in this hour that it is only faith in Christ that can save us -
faith plus nothing.

Now I want to conclude with the strongest statement of all. Paul, at the end
of Galatians 4, says,

Nevertheless, what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son
[that was Hagar and her son Ishmael]; for the son of the bondwoman shall not
be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not
children of the bondwoman, but of the free. (Galatians 4:30, 31)

Will you hear me now - oh, this is important! If you are trying to be saved
by trusting Christ plus the Law, Paul says you are not saved.

Behold, I, Paul, say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall
profit you nothing. (Galatians 5:2)

You can be saved only by trusting Christ. You have to make up your mind
whether you'll trust Christ or whether you will go by the legal route. You
have to trust Him completely. You can't carry a spare tire by saying, "Well,
you know, I have church membership" or "I say my prayers." My friend, if you
are trusting these things to get you to heaven, you are not saved, you
cannot be saved. It is only when you look to this wonderful Savior and trust
Him wholly and totally. I close with another homely illustration. Our
daughter came to visit us while we were in Florida, and we wanted to return
to California by train. That was the time when passenger trains were being
phased out. We tried to get a train route to California, but it seemed as
though we would have to go halfway around the world to get there. So we had
to come back by plane. When we got the tickets, I said, "Wouldn't it be nice
if we could go by train and plane at the same time - sit in the plane and
put our feet down in the train!" (I would feel much safer with my feet in
the train, I assure you.) But that's absurd. If we go by plane, we go by
plane; if we go by train, we go by train. They have made no arrangements for
passengers to sit in a plane and put their feet down in a train. My friend,
neither has God any arrangement for you to be saved by faith and by law. You
have to choose one or the other. If you want to go by law, then you can try
it - but I'll warn you that God has already said you won't make it.

My friend, are you going to heaven? How are you going? You can't travel both
ways. You have to decide whether you are going to trust Christ or whether
you are going to try to make it another way. If you try another way, I say
with Paul, "Christ shall profit you nothing." But if you will trust Him,
cast yourself upon Him, He will save you. You don't have to do anything. All
I did was board that plane and tighten my seat belt according to
instructions - when they started feeding us, I had to loosen it - but that
is all in the world I had to do. Everything else was done for me. And,
friend, Christ has done everything for our salvation. It is your trust in
Him that saves you. And, oh, let me tell you how wonderful it is this moment
to know I am saved. When I look at Vernon McGee I get so discouraged. But I'm
looking to Christ today. I'm looking to Him, and I wish I could sing the
"Hallelujah Chorus." It's wonderful to know that Vernon McGee is saved.
Thank God he is saved by faith in Christ! That's the way, the only way, He
can save you. It is faith plus nothing.
Back to top
Carl
Guest






PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Faith + 0 = Salvation Reply with quote

In the following lesson, J. Vernon McGee teaches the Biblical doctrine of
salvation by faith alone and not by works of man.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

---

Faith + 0 = Salvation
by Dr. J. Vernon McGee

For ye are all the sons of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26)

Our subject could also be called "Faith Minus Works Equals Salvation." If
you want the equation (we're told in mathematics that things equal to the
same thing are equal to each other), it would be:

Faith + 0 = Faith - Works

The Epistle to the Galatians comes from the heart of Paul, and in it he is
defending the greatest doctrine that we have: Justification by faith, or
salvation by the grace of God. This is the epistle that gripped Martin
Luther. As an Augustinian monk, he spent nights lying on a cold slab,
wearing a hair shirt, fasting, and doing many other things. One time he was
going up Sancta Scala in Rome, ascending the stairs on his knees, and it
came to him (because he had been studying the Epistle to the Galatians) that
man was not justified by works - certainly not by the things he was doing;
that works could not bring him into a right relationship with God; that God
had made it very clear that He justifies men by faith alone. So this man
rose from his knees to go out into Europe and proclaim a gospel that drove
back the darkness of the Dark Ages, took the chains and shackles from the
minds and hearts of the multitudes of Europe, and brought in what we call
today European civilization. In our day, this great civilization has gone by
the board - it's through, and it can be restored only by the preaching of
the great doctrines that Paul enunciated in this epistle.

Not only did the Epistle to the Galatians move Martin Luther, but it also
began the great spiritual movement that was led by the Wesleys. John Wesley
came to America as a missionary to the Indians, but his mission was a
failure. Returning to England in discouragement, he said, "I came to America
to convert Indians, but who is going to convert John Wesley?" Back in
London, walking down Aldersgate Street one night, he heard singing coming
from an upstairs window. He found the stairway, went up, and discovered it
was a meeting of the Friends, the Quakers, the followers of George Fox. He
took his place in the back of the little auditorium and listened to a
message from the Epistle to the Galatians. Later, John Wesley wrote in his
journal, "As he read and spoke from the Epistle to the Galatians, I felt my
heart strangely warmed. I felt that I did trust in Christ, Christ alone, for
salvation; and there was given me there an assurance that He had taken away
my sins, even mine."

What is this great truth that has so moved the men of the past and which
today is the only thing that can move America or even the world? (I
personally do not believe a revival is going to come in by the methods of
organizations or by a man. I think it can come today only by preaching again
these great truths that have long since gone into oblivion and silence in
the churches of America.) Well, Paul stated it very succinctly in the
Epistle to the Romans when he said:

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the
ungodly, his faith is counted for [that which it is not] righteousness.
(Romans 4:5)

The only way God can accept a sinner and make him righteous is through faith
in Jesus Christ. That's the great truth that is being left out today. God
refuses to accept law-keeping. He refuses to accept good works. The very
moment someone says, "I do this or that, which is necessary for my
salvation, and I'm depending on it," he means two things: that he is
trusting his works and that he is not trusting Christ. And there is only one
conclusion that can be drawn: He is not saved at all. That is strong
language, and I would never say a thing like that, but Paul says it here in
this epistle. Salvation is only by faith in Christ.

After all, what works do you and I have to offer to God? It is like the
little boy whose father was doing some building in the backyard. The little
fellow got his hammer and nails and wanted to help. He began driving in
nails where they didn't belong and using a saw where he shouldn't be sawing.
His "helping" was not really acceptable. As much as the father loved the
little fellow, he couldn't accept his work. It could not be used. Do you
think God can take your good works for your salvation when He has already
declared us sinners? God, therefore, refuses to accept law-keeping. The
Mosaic Law, actually, never was given to save men. Paul calls it a
"ministration of condemnation" and a "ministration of death" (see 2
Corinthians 3:7, 9). The Law was given to show men that they are lost
sinners. Listen to Paul:

Wherefore, then, serveth the law? It was added because of [for the sake of ]
transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made..
(Galatians 3:19)

That seed, Paul says later on, was Christ. The Law was temporary - it was
given merely as a temporary measure, and it was given for the sake of
transgressions. Therefore, the Law cannot remove sin. Rather, it reveals
sin. It was not given for salvation at all. It was given to show us that we
are sinners. It reveals the fact that man is not a sophisticated sinner or a
refined or trained sinner, as some folk would have you believe today; but
man is a sinner in the raw, a sinner by nature. The Mosaic Law reveals this
to us.

Let me use a very homely illustration. Don't be shocked if I take you into
the bathroom for a few moments. I'm sure you have in your bathroom a mirror.
And I'm sure that under the mirror you have a washbasin. That mirror is
there to reveal your condition.

You look in that mirror and it reveals a smudge on your face. It will not
remove it. A great many people today are using the mirror of the Ten
Commandments or the Sermon on the Mount to try to remove the smudge. It won't
do it. If you go into your bathroom, look in the mirror and see you have a
dirty face, you don't rub your face against the mirror. If you do, and a
member of your family sees you doing it, they are apt to make an appointment
for you with a psychiatrist to talk over your condition. That's not the way
it's done. Yet our churches today are filled with people who are rubbing up
against the Mirror, the Word of God, hoping they will be able to remove
their sin by contact. Many people today are saying, "My religion is the
Sermon on the Mount." Very candidly, the Sermon on the Mount as a religion
is making more hypocrites today than anything I know of - because you know
you're not keeping it. If you are honest, you know you are not living by it.
But it does reveal to you that you come short of the glory of God. And down
beneath that Mirror there is a washbasin.

There is a fountain filled with blood
Drawn from Immanuel's veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood
Lose all their guilty stains.
- William Cowper

God has a place to take away sins, but it is not the Law. It is Christ,
through the shedding of His blood, who paid the penalty for your sin. It is
your trust and faith in Him that saves you; nothing else can.

Now there is something else that is said here about the Law:

Wherefore, the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we
might be justified by faith. (Galatians 3:24)

"Schoolmaster" is the Greek word paidagogos, which doesn't mean
schoolteacher at all. It means a servant or a slave who was part of a Roman
household. Half of the Roman Empire was slave. Of the 120 million people, 60
million were slaves. In the home of a patrician, a member of the Praetorian
Guard, or the rich in the Roman Empire, were slaves that cared for the
children. When a child was born into such a home, he was put in the custody
of a servant who actually raised him. He put clean clothes on him, bathed
him, helped him blow his nose when it was necessary, and paddled him when he
needed it. When the little one grew to a certain age and was to start to
school, this servant was the one who got him up of a morning, dressed him,
and took him to school. That is where he got the name of paidagogos - paid
has to do with the feet, and we get our word "pedal" from it; agogos means
"to lead." It means that he took the little one by the hand, led him to
school, and turned him over to the schoolteacher. This servant, the slave,
was not capable of teaching him beyond a certain age, so he took him to
school.

Now what Paul is saying here is that the Law is our paidagogos. The Law
said, "Little fellow, I can't do any more for you. I now want to take you by
the hand and bring you to the cross of Christ. You are lost. You need a
Savior." The purpose of the Law is to bring men to Christ - not to give them
an expanded chest so they can walk around claiming they keep God's
commandments. You know you don't keep them; all you have to do is examine
your own heart to know that. This is the great truth that has been
surrendered in this country today.

Our educational system teaches the opposite. Let me give you a quotation
from an outstanding educator:

"Where education assumes that the moral nature of man is capable of
improvement, traditional Christianity assumes that the moral nature of man
is corrupt or absolutely bad. Where it is assumed in education that an
outside human agent may be instrumental in the moral improvement of man, in
traditional Christianity it is assumed that the agent is God, and even so,
the moral nature of man is not improved, but exchanged for a new one."

That is a tremendous statement. And we have seen the working out of it in
our educational philosophy. Look on any campus today and you will see what
we are producing. May I say to you that our educational system is certainly
in question in this hour in which we live. Our approach and philosophy have
been altogether wrong. God says that man is lost and must be saved. This is
the thing that is all important.

Now I know that a great many people today keep up a front.

Let me give you the example of a contemporary who has passed across the
stage in recent history. He is Ernest Hemingway. A great many looked up to
him, especially our literary lights. This fellow tried to appear to be a
Jack London. He went out and shot wild game, he was interested in
bullfights, he was the great big swaggering type. Yet down underneath, as
Edmund Wilson, his biographer, put it, was "the undrugable consciousness
that something was wrong." Any man who is honest today knows down deep in
his heart that something is wrong.

Some time ago Gordon Lindsay made a study of the Stone-Age people out in New
Guinea and Myanmar (formerly Burma). Let me pass on to you his conclusions:

The notion of primitive man possessing some inner peace which we civilized
people have somehow lost and need to regain is a lot of nonsense. Your
average New Guinea native lives not only in fear of his enemies but in
terror-struck dread of the unknown. Malevolent spirits, especially those of
ancestors, are all about him.

Man never gets away from that which is down deep in his heart.

Dr. O. Hobart Mowerer, a research professor of psychology at the University
of Illinois, is the author of a book entitled The Crisis in Psychiatry and
Religion. He also taught at Yale and Harvard and is the past president of
the American Psychological Association. He is widely known as a researcher,
teacher, and lecturer. Notice what he states:

"The Freudians, of course, recognize that guilt is central to Neurosis. But
it is always the guilt of the future. It is not what the person has done
that makes him ill but rather what he wishes to do but dares not. In
contrast, the emerging alternative, or more accurately, the re-emerging one,
is that the so-called neurotic is a bona fide sinner. And his guilt is from
the past and is real, and that his difficulties arise, not from inhibitions,
but from actions which are clearly prescribed, socially and morally, and
which have been kept carefully concealed, unconfessed and unredeemed."

A psychologist at the University of Southern California who attended my
Bible study several years ago told me one night as he was leaving the
auditorium, "Dr. McGee, you ought to emphasize the guilt complex more than
you do. That guilt complex is as much a part of you as your right arm - and
you can't get rid of it. What the psychologist does is change it from one
spot to another, but he doesn't remove it. The only place I know to remove
the guilt is at the cross of Christ." That is where you bring your sins, my
beloved.

You don't have to put up a front today and say, "I'm So-and-so." Well, God
says you are a so-and-so sinner, and He gives you this remedy:

Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as
scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson,
they shall be as wool. (Isaiah 1:18)

Oh, to face reality today! There are multitudes in our churches who are
doing nothing in the world but covering up. You don't have to cover up. Be
real. Be genuine. You might just as well tell God about your sins. He
already knows. He knows you through and through.

Martin Luther said, "God creates out of nothing. Therefore, until a man is
nothing, God can make nothing out of him."

Your best resolutions must wholly be waived;
Your highest ambitions be crossed.
You never need think you will ever be saved,
'Til first you've learned you are lost.
- Author unknown

When you realize this truth, you can be saved. We have had too much
"easy-believism." Little wonder our churches have become full of folk who do
nothing in the world but blow a trumpet. They are like the Pharisee who
patted himself on the back in his prayer by saying, "God, I thank thee that
I am not as other men are," then he began to brag about what he did (see
Luke 18:9-14). Our Lord said that such a man gets nowhere with God. His
prayers die in the rafters.

Now Paul mentions three things that faith in Christ does for us which the
Mosaic Law could never do, that religion cannot do, and that the church
cannot do.

1. The Nature of Sons of God

First of all, only faith in Christ can make us legitimate sons of God. Will
you listen to this:

For ye are all the sons of God by faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26)

Notice the word is "sons," not children. It is the Greek huios, meaning
"legitimate sons." How do you become a son of God? By faith in Christ Jesus.
There is no other way. You are a legitimate son of God by faith in Christ
Jesus.

Back in the Old Testament you do not find God calling the Old Testament
saints "sons." Israel as a nation was called a son, but individuals were
not. Although David was a man after God's own heart, God spoke of him as
"David, my servant." That was the language used in the Old Testament.

When our Lord confronted the religious man, Nicodemus, He said, "Ye must be
born again" (see John 3:3). And Nicodemus was genuine; he was obedient to
the Law. As a Pharisee he fasted twice a week, he gave a tenth of all he
possessed, and he did everything else required of a Pharisee. He was
religious to his fingertips, but our Lord said to him, "You can't even see
the kingdom of heaven until you have been born again. Religion won't help
you."

The most damnable heresy that is in this world today, and it has hurt our
nation more than anything else, is the teaching of the universal fatherhood
of God and the universal brotherhood of man.

That is not taught in the Word of God. We have spent billions of dollars
throughout the world trying to appease rascals on the basis that they are
our brothers. Our Lord made it very clear when the religious Pharisees came
to Him claiming, "We have one Father, even God." He said, "Ye are of your
father the devil" (see John 8: 41-44). Now since Christ said that, evidently
somebody couldn't claim God as Father. Evidently there were some who were
not His children - and there are a great many today, also. You become a
child of God only through faith in Jesus Christ.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received
him, to them gave he power [the right, the authority] to become the children
of God, even to them that [do no more nor less than simply] believe on his
name. (John 1:11, 12)

That is the way you become a son of God.

2. The Position of Sons of God

Now faith in Christ does something else that religion won't do, the church
can't do, nor can the works of the Law or any little thing you go through.
That is to give you the position of a son of God. This is a little
technical - follow me closely.

Now I say that the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a
servant, though he be lord of all. (Galatians 4:1)

In the phrase, "the heir, as long as he is a child," the word for "child" is
nepios, which means an immature child. As such, he is no different from a
servant "though he be lord of all."

Now let's go back to the Roman home again and look at this little fellow. He
is born into a good Roman family, but a servant takes care of him. And if
you saw him running around with the other children, you'd never know he was
the heir. You would not know that he was the son of the father of the
household. He grows up "under tutors and governors until the time appointed
of the father" (Galatians 4:2).

The age of accountability was not an established age level, but it was
determined by the individual father. I think the father would know best. I
know some boys who are mature when they are sixteen, some at eighteen, and
some mature at twenty-one or older.

In a Roman home it must have worked something like this. Suppose the father
is a centurion in Caesar's army. Caesar carries on a campaign way up in
Gaul, pushing back the frontier of the Roman Empire. (Gaul is where my
ancestors were and, believe me, they were heathen and they were fighters,
and Caesar's army had trouble with them.) So this centurion is gone from
home for several years as the army puts down these northern barbarians. But
finally the father returns home. He goes in to shave, and all of a sudden
you hear him yell out, "Who's been using my razor?" Well, I tell you, all
the servants come running because he is the head of the house.

They say to him, "Your son." He says, "You mean to tell me that boy is old
enough to use a razor? Bring him here." So they bring him in - he's a fine
strapping boy - and the father says, "Well, now we must have the toga
virilis, and we'll send out invitations to the grandmas, grandpas, aunts,
and uncles." So they all come in for the ceremony of the toga virilis, and
that day the father puts around the boy a toga, a robe. That is what our
Lord meant in His parable of the prodigal son: "Put the robe around him, and
put a ring on his finger" (see Luke 15:22). The ring had on it the signet of
his father, which was equivalent to his signature and gave him the father's
authority.

You could see that boy walking down the street now with that robe on. The
servant better not say anything to correct him now, and he'd better not try
to paddle him. In fact, the son will be paddling the servant from here on,
because he has now reached the age of a full-grown son. That is what Paul
meant when he went on to say:

Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the
world [under the Law]. But, when the fullness of the time was come, God sent
forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were
under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. (Galatians 4:3-5)

Now "adoption" has nothing to do with going to an orphans' home, seeing a
precious little child, and then taking legal steps to make him your own.
That was not "adoption" in the Roman Empire. Adoption was when the man took
his own son and made him a full-grown son. And the day when God saves us, we
are brought into the family of God as full-grown sons.

That truth may not mean anything to you, but it means everything to me - and
it has in the past. I went to seminary with an awful inferiority complex. I
was not brought up in a Christian home where I saw a Bible or heard a
prayer - I knew nothing. And when I got to seminary the other fellows knew
it all - at least that's the impression they gave me. I've never met so many
smart fellows. They knew the Bible, could quote verses, and they were very
pious too. I didn't even know the books of the Bible. And, I tell you, it
disturbed me. So I began to learn the books of the Bible.

The reason I wrote the book, Briefing the Bible (This booklet is no longer
in print.), with outlines of
every book, was that I determined to know every book of the Bible. Then one
day someone told me that I was not just a babe but that I was a full-grown
son. Anything any mature saint could understand in the Word of God, I could
understand because that mature saint would need the Holy Spirit to teach
him, and I would too. That was a tremendous revelation to me and a great
comfort in those early days.

God brings us in as full-grown sons so we can understand spiritual truth!
And if you don't understand it, it is your fault because He has made every
arrangement for you. He has made you a fullgrown son. To me the greatest
tragedy in our churches today is the number of Bible ignoramuses who are
there. They are not able to find their way around in the Bible at all.
Notice what Paul says in this connection:

But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered
into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love
him. (1 Corinthians 2:9)

This verse is used, as you know, at funerals with the idea that poor, dear
So-and-so didn't hear or see much here, but he has gone up yonder where he
can hear and see the things of God. Now I grant you that this truth is in
the Bible - "For now we see in a mirror, darkly; but then, face to face" (1
Corinthians 13:12) - but this is not what 1 Corinthians 2:9 is saying. God
wants us to understand spiritual truths down here because "God hath revealed
them unto us by his Spirit" (1 Corinthians 2:10). Most of our learning comes
through the ear-gate, the eye-gate, and what the psychologist calls
cognition. That is how we learn today. But if we are going to get divine
truth:

But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit; for the Spirit searcheth
all things, yea, the deep things of God.. But the natural man receiveth not
the things of the Spirit of God; for they are foolishness unto him, neither
can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians
2:10, 14)

3. The Experience of Sons of God

Faith in Christ, not works of the Law, gives the experience of sons of God.
There are those today who think experience does not enter into salvation,
that it has nothing to do with your salvation. But if you're saved, faith in
Christ will give you an experience. Many of us tend to play down experience.
However, there is a sadness that has come over the saints in this country
today. And there are many who need to have the experience of the Spirit of
God making real in their lives that they are sons of God, making real to
them that in spite of circumstances they are still children of God. Now I
recognize the danger in experience. Let me share this little poem with you:

Three men were walking on a wall,
Feeling, Faith, and Fact,
When Feeling had an awful fall,
And Faith was taken aback.
So close was Faith to Feeling,
He stumbled and fell too,
But Fact remained and pulled Faith back,
And Faith brought Feeling too.
- Author unknown

If you are a child of God through faith in Christ, there is an experience.

Now the believer never reaches the place of sinless perfection in this life.
I wish we did. Being a pastor would be a lot easier if we had sinless
perfection today. But we don't have it. There have been men who in their
desperation have reached out for it. The greatest preacher, I suppose, this
country ever produced was Paul Rader. Thousands of people came to Christ
through his ministry. Dr. Charles Fuller was one of them. He told me that he
sat behind the last pillar in the church when Paul Rader preached. He put
his head down on his arms and right where he was sitting he accepted Christ.
Many other well-known men accepted Christ through the evangelistic efforts
of Paul Rader. He was a great preacher. But he was accused of preaching
sinless perfection. He was not guilty of the charge, but he did give that
impression because he said some unusual things. One of the things he said
was, "That old nature you have is just like a dead cat. Reach down, get it
by the tail, and throw it from you as far as you can!" And everyone in the
audience said, "Amen," because everybody wants to get rid of the old dead
cat. Now maybe you're a little disgusted with Vernon McGee - you'd be
surprised what I think of him. I'd like to get rid of the old nature, but it
follows me around all the time. On one occasion Dr. Chafer said to Paul
Rader when he made that statement, "Paul, you forget that old cat has nine
lives! He'll just come right back and you'll have to throw him away again
and again." Now, my beloved, the believer never reaches perfection. We are
always God's foolish little children, filled with ignorance, stubbornness,
sins, fears, and weaknesses. We are never wonderful; He is wonderful. We
never reach that place. But we do experience the Spirit of God bearing
witness with our spirit that we are the children of God.

Paul says that the Spirit of God cries, "Abba, Father" -

And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your
hearts, crying, Abba, Father. (Galatians 4:6)

This word Abba was not translated. The translators, very wisely, I think,
did not attempt to put it into English. It is too personal. It means "my
daddy." And you don't talk that way about God, friend, regardless of how
intimate you try to get with Him. You don't talk that way to Him. He is high
and holy. But the Spirit of God can do that, and it is the Spirit of God who
will witness to a child of God of the Father's closeness and tender care. He
does this especially in times of darkness and crises that come to us down
here. John Paton, a missionary living among cannibals in the New Hebrides,
told of how he buried his lovely wife with their newborn baby, and sat guard
over the graves for days to keep the cannibals from digging up the bodies.
He said, "I would have gone mad if Christ had not made Himself real to me."
My friend, I think He will make Himself real to you.

If I may be personal - and the reason I use this personal illustration is
that many who read this are going through the same experience. When I was
told I had cancer, I'll be honest with you, I couldn't believe it. Now I
could believe that you could have cancer, but I never thought I could have
it. My doctor told me I would have to go to the hospital. So I went to the
hospital and lay down in a bed. I had been a preacher for many years, and in
rather a professional manner I had gone into hospitals to visit folk. I
would pat them on the hand and say, "God will be with you." I prayed for
them, then I would walk out. But they had to stay there. A preacher friend
came in late that first evening. I shall never forget.

He prayed one of the most wonderful prayers I ever listened to, and how I
appreciated it! Then he got up and left. But this time I was not walking
out - I had to stay there. So I rolled over with my face to the wall and I
said, "Lord, I've been in this hospital a hundred times, and I've told
everybody else to trust You. Now I want to know whether that's real or not."
I want to testify to this, friend, He became real.

There are multitudes of people who will testify to this also, for they have
had the same experience. For example, in Houston, Texas, a family drove
fifty miles to the banquet at which I was speaking.

They said to me, "We were Roman Catholics and we turned in faith to Christ
when you were teaching Romans." In Sarasota, Florida, a couple told me, "We
have a son who has turned his back on us and against God. We have been
rebuking ourselves and have even felt that we are no longer saved, but,
thank God, it is faith plus nothing." My friend, He gives the experience.
The Law cannot give that to you, only faith in Christ can give it to you.

This message is not pabulum; it is not milk and mush. I'm not the milkman.
It might give you Christian colic today, because this is meat. But